User talk:PaoloCastagna

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Hi Paolo

I have added you as a trusted user so that you are now able to include an external web link in an article.

--Chef 08:48, 28 December 2011 (GMT)

Hi Paolo

Thank you for your offer to help with Italian cheeses! What you need to do is to go to this page and you will see a list of Italian regions. Abruzzo and Basilicata are complete, so ignore those, but if for example you want to start with Calabria (you can start where you like), click on the link to the region and you will see several thumbnails of cheeses which we have identified as coming from that region. Below the thumbnails are links to cheeses where we have added some sort of content. If there is no link listed for a particular cheese, then you will know that there is no content.

To add content, click on the relative thumbnail TEXT and you will come to a page headed 'Please help!'. Towards the bottom of the page you will see a link which says 'A semi-automated cheese page builder'. Click on that you will come to the cheese builder. You can fill in as many or as few of the boxes as you are able. However, please make sure that in the right-hand side column, you tick the Italian cheeses box and the box where you can indicate the region of Italy the cheese somes from. Also in that column are boxes for milk-type, whether pasteurised or not, and type of rennet, but these are not always known. On the left-hand side, where it says cheese type, this is for stating whether it is soft, semi-soft, hard, blue etc. This is an example of a finished page with a reasonable amount of information.

If you need any help, then do get back to me. Thanks again --JuliaBalbilla 09:51, 28 December 2011 (GMT)

Questions ++

Hi Paolo, just a quick update and a few tips that might be useful. I'm not sure if you saw that I have added you as an admin and also installed the Semantic MediaWiki - it's still only 70% through the indexing, though currently it will only have categories as useful tags. I will need to have a hard think about how we automate some of the tagging in existing pages.

I note that you are making some useful comments on pages which I am trying to act on. It's quite difficult for me to keep up with these because once they drop off the Special:RecentChanges list then it's not easy to spot them out of 35k pages!

I did develop a little trick that helps in these cases. If you could paste the category link below into the talk page in question then myself or others can simply check the Question_outstanding category for anything that needs actioning and then delete the tag once the question or action has been completed.

[[Category:Question outstanding]]

As far as merges and deletes of duplicates etc, I am more than happy for you to do them yourself if you feel comfortable.

If you spot a CheesePageAwaitingImage template link in a cheese page that already has a picture then please do delete the link as they often get left in it saves us was wasting time looking for unwanted images.

Your Wiki knowledge seems fairly advanced so I don't wish to insult you by giving help or tips where they are not required but if you need any assistance then add a comment on my talk page - I see any changes to it the moment I view any page on the wiki so can usually get back to you fairly quickly.

Many thanks for all you are doing. -- Chef 10:48, 29 December 2011 (GMT)

Smeantic tags

A little help please regarding Julias local idea:

We can add categories for on-line suppliers & local suppliers which will allow differentiation.

I'm thinking that we should add a category for the town, so that we can eventually do a filter: Indian suppliers in Dartford, etc.

What should we name the town categories to maintain Semantic compatibility?

Can we just use the town name?


Yeah, just the town name is fine. --PaoloCastagna 10:18, 30 December 2011 (GMT)

I will modify the recipe builder to include the uses: tag and more when I get the chance. I shall also remove some of the redirects that we have because I imagine the S M will have a problem with them. eg: [[garlic cloves]] => [[garlic]] would be better changed back to [[garlic]] cloves, otherwise uses::Garlic will be a separate statement from uses::Garlic cloves ? There will be an awful lot of these to change though.

Before doing a lot of changes, we should experiment with just a couple of recipes, their ingredients, tools, suppliers and see how it goes. Let's give ourselves a few more days to do little small experiments before deciding. For example, I am having problems with ingredients and their quantities (Semantic MediaWiki is limited to this regard and I have not found a workaround). --PaoloCastagna 10:18, 30 December 2011 (GMT)

I can really see the benefit of the Semantic Wiki - thank you. Damn you! - more work :-)

No pressure, there is not a deadline, is it! :-) --PaoloCastagna 10:18, 30 December 2011 (GMT)

Let's give ourselves a few more days to do little small experiments before deciding. - extremely good advice! Very exciting though - you have me hooked! I shall do a bit of S M studying in the meantime!

--Chef 10:38, 30 December 2011 (GMT)

FYI: (in case it is relevant to your quantity issue) I installed SMW with the default settings

-- Chef 10:55, 30 December 2011 (GMT)

Food mill probably one of these ?


If so, then a redirect can be created.

  1. red-link, clicky
  2. click Blank redirect
  3. fill brackets with (cut'n'paste is safest) name of page - eg: Mouli ?

--Chef 13:24, 3 January 2012 (GMT)

In Italian is "passa verdura", I think the correct translation is "food mill" but I am not 100% sure.

From "A rotary type, called a food mill, also exists and here the food is driven towards the grid by a large screw, similar to a meat grinder/mincing machine but without the rotary blade."

See also:

--PaoloCastagna 13:40, 3 January 2012 (GMT)

I assume that 'verdura' means 'vegetable' and my idea of a vegetable mill would be a mouli type thing --JuliaBalbilla 14:21, 3 January 2012 (GMT)

Yes, that one. Amazon calls it "food mill" or "rotary mill". Another tool can be used instead... probably even a blender. --PaoloCastagna 14:24, 3 January 2012 (GMT)

Sorry - I did not make myself clear - by one of these, I meant one of the items in the list on that page - specifically this. Redirect created. --Chef 15:28, 3 January 2012 (GMT)

Recipe descriptions

Hi Paolo

I hope you don't mind that I have added a few more categories to your apple pie recipe. The more categories it is in, the better for Cookipedia. I have also added a description, a pretty lame one at that (please feel free to improve it). However if it has a description then it can appear properly in the random categories and on the home page slot. Something as impressive as that deserves to be there!

--Chef 16:45, 16 January 2012 (GMT)